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UPDATED: GO trains start December 19 – full commuter and fare schedule

By shost at 10:58 am on Friday, November 25, 2011

Live from the media event in guelph

Liz Sandals made the announcement

Acton not to be included initially but added later (in 2012)

The following information added after the event:

Train departure times for Commuters (All GO/VIA trains listed for commuters)

Train #             Kitchener    Guelph         Toronto           Toronto        Guelph       Kitchener

GO #1             5:52 AM       6:14AM         7:53 AM          DP4:45 PM     6:18PM      6:42PM

VIA 86/7         6:29 AM        6:57 AM      8:20AM           DP5:40 PM      6:52PM      7:20 PM

GO #2           7:10   AM       7:32AM      9:08AM           DP 5:45 PM    7:15 PM*     7:42PM

* Note – Liz Sandals press release incorrectly stated 7:42 PM for second GO train arrival at Guelph and I have estimated a more correct arrival time as 7:42 is the correct Kitchener train arrival

Note 2: Both announcements/media releases for fares and schedules was from the MPP’s and NOT from Go Transit.

COST: One way single ticket fares are $14.60 from Kitchener and $11.70 from Guelph.

TRANSIT: Transit integration is not yet ready (Presto cards, single fares, etc) but GO Transit and Guelph Transit management indicated that this is also in the works and will be integrated. Guelph Transit is prepared to react to Commuter needs and add services as required in order to make a smooth commute for anyone using Guelph Transit to get to the station on -time.

GO/VIA integration: Check with GO/VIA to see if there is any integration of your ticket to choose either train, this had been doen in the past in Brampton but is probably something that needs to be negotiated between all parties

Parking: No parking integration yet, ask GO to work on integration options, or choose your best municipal or private parking option as required. (Guelph parking rates are from $30-80/month depending on the choice of lot for a monthly pass)

ACTON: Acton Station is delayed due to agreements required with property owner (Old Hide House) but will be added at a later date.

Remember folks, this is a starting point, improvements and plenty of them are still on the table. If things take off, integration will be fully entrenched with parking and transit in KW and Guelph, new stations will be pursued by GO for park and ride (Breslau will be the first addition there) and it is also likely GO may add additional trains. The only wrench I see in the addition of additional trains is the layover at Kitchener cannot be expanded.

I plan to be on the train on the 19th in the morning and will return by next earliest bus. See many of you there.

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Comment by Sean

November 25, 2011 @ 12:30 pm

The GO to KW/Guelph schedule is out and it is TERRIBLE. You know people work 8 hour days right? so getting to toronto at 7:53am means NO ONE will be able to catch the 4:45pm home! Who came up with this logic?!

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Comment by John

November 25, 2011 @ 1:31 pm

Well, I’m not impressed. GO screwed this up. First train in should have been an extension of the existing express train that arrives at Union at 8am. Why would I want to switch to this schedule. With this schedule my commute, which is already 3.5 hours a day would become 4.25 hours a day. I save an hour driving to Milton and catching the train there. If they want to get riders that have to make the schedule reasonable. This new services should have been combined with express trains on the Georgetown line.

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Comment by RTR Guelph - Milton - Union

November 25, 2011 @ 2:11 pm

I’ve been waiting with optimism for the Guelph GO Train schedule to be published for some time now. I had optimistically hoped that GO would propose some creative scheduling solutions that would allow a train to arrive in Guelph before 6pm. I was hoping that the GO people might try and replicate the express train concept they use on their Lakeshore line to help service the Guelph /KW stations with a ride that would be the rate of ridership&adoption vs. the way that people are currently commuting. The news that Guelph’s earliest arrival time of 6:18pm unfortunately doesn’t support such things as picking up infants from Child Care etc. Unfortunately, for me driving to the Milton Go station is still a better option than walking to new Guelph station. With Milton’s schedule I at least have the ability to be back in Guelph before 6pm. I am hoping that as GO collects feedback during the first 6 months of use (or lack thereof), they see the wisdom of really looking at creative scheduling options vs. tacking 2 stops onto an existing train.

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Comment by Evan

November 25, 2011 @ 5:11 pm

A CN employee working at the rail bridge re-construction at the Guelph station said that GO is expected to start test trains on Dec 14. He was right on the Dec 19 start date that he mentioned before the announcement by a few days. So he may be right about the test runs. I suspect Go needs to provide staff with an opportunity to familiarize themselves with the route.

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Comment by James

November 25, 2011 @ 10:26 pm

You’ll notice that half of GO’s trip between Kitchener and Toronto takes place between Kitchener and Georgetown. VIA Rail also currently schedules an hour and two minutes between Kitchener and Georgetown. VIA’s half hour advantage comes from not having to stop at Mount Pleasant, Bramalea, Malton, Weston and Bloor.

The province’s announcement for GO train service on Kitchener was done on the cheap. For around $18 million, we got a two-track layover yard, an extended platform in Kitchener (closing off a street), and platform work in Guelph.

What GO and VIA would love to add is track and bridge upgrades west of Georgetown, and some double tracking, which would allow both services to shave a half hour from their travel time. I believe there’s been some money announced for this project, but the Goderich&Exeter Railway is dragging its feet, which is a bloody shame.

Also on tap is an integrated transportation hub for the City of Kitchener, using land at the King/Victoria intersection. This will combine a new VIA/GO stop, inter-city buses, Grand River Transit buses and LRT. This project is being pushed forward by the Region of Waterloo which has expropriated the land.

So, it’s an on-the-cheap extension, but there’s a good possibility for more investment, especially if the service proves to be popular, and I think it will be. This could mean more trains (GO and VIA), better stations and better track, for faster service. And if Kitchener gets more trains, I’m sort of hoping that they’ll be separated from the Georgetown rush hour runs. Operate Georgetown trains from Mount Pleasant (along with full service between Union and Mount Pleasant), and have the rush hour Kitchener trains stop at Kitchener, Guelph, Acton, Georgetown and Mount Pleasant before operating express to Union. That should save even more time.

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Comment by Linus

November 26, 2011 @ 3:30 am

Hmm… an hour and 40 minutes one-way to get from Guelph to Toronto. And the price is the same as the bus. But the bus has a shorter travel time and there is tons of free parking in Aberfoyle, and NO free parking in Guelph. With limited parking at exhorbitant rates in Guelph, do we see ridership on GO dying already?!

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Comment by James

November 27, 2011 @ 4:02 am

Guelph will have city buses running and possibility a integrated fare like Mississauga (like 50 cents or something) – not bad for a 5 – 20 min ride to dt and home

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Comment by Jack

November 27, 2011 @ 10:18 am

I’m from Toronto and go to the University of Guelph. At the moment I can’t find any incentive to take the train route on a daily basis as the commute will take too much time and energy. I’m better off staying in residence if the schedule stays that way, unless there will be express services that can shorten the commute by at least 40min.

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Comment by Wilson

November 27, 2011 @ 12:33 pm

This service is fantastic news and I’m happy to be done with the 401/407. My only wish is that one train would be scheduled to arrive in Guelph before 6. I suspect a lot of people feel this way. I mean hey, we still gotta make and eat dinner right. Makes life a lot easier in any case…hooray.

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Comment by Marcia

November 28, 2011 @ 7:28 am

The GO to KW/Guelph schedule is out and it is TERRIBLE. You know people start work at 8am right? So getting to toronto at 7:53am means NO ONE will be able to get to work on-time! Who came up with this logic?!

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Comment by shost

November 30, 2011 @ 10:06 am

Marcia, Go Train service is intended to be ‘peak commuter’ service when most people go to work (which is 9 AM, not 8 AM) and there is bus service to help commuters around these times.

As numbers improve, it’s cheaper for GO to send one train instead of multiple busses, so they will add additional trains as numbers and demand improves. Unfortunately, since most people start work at 9 AM you seem to be left looking for alternatives to the Guelph Central train.

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Comment by Marcia

November 30, 2011 @ 3:10 pm

@ shost

Sorry but people work 8:30 to 5 – plus they need time to, you know, get off the train, walk or take TTC to work, and then get into work. That, my friends, takes time – time this schedule does not allow. Thank you

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Comment by shost

December 3, 2011 @ 11:20 am

Marcia, you may work 8:30 to 5 but I work 8-5, so clearly not everyone works as you say they do. Regardless, if you feel this strongly you should write GO transit.

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Comment by EnviroTO

December 5, 2011 @ 2:51 am

I’m surprised they launched the service without the appropriate track upgrades between Georgetown and Kitchener. I’m very concerned that the schedule is going to really hurt ridership and that the lack of demand is the reason for the low turnout rather than the awful infrastructure. The VIA Train from London to Toronto via Kitchener is an hour longer than the train via Aldershot… there is no reason for that amount of discrepancy.

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Comment by Mark

December 6, 2011 @ 4:51 pm

Does anyone know if they are going to put Presto balance checkers/readers at the Kitchener Via station?

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